AA: Ale ty si to úplne dezinterpretoval. Anarchistom nejde o onaniu nad pravekými primitívnymi spoločnosťami, nie je to ani žiadny vzor ani idealizovanie. Je to reakcia na práve tie náboženské tvrdenie, ktoré dnes produkujú či napr. kovaní kapitalisti alebo proste rôzni zástancovia štátnych spoločností. A to sú také, že to tak bolo
vždy a je to človeku úplne
prirodzené.
Tento pohľad na históriu len vyvracia tento jednostranný koncept tým, že tá variabilita bola širšia. Samozrejme, že vývoj smeroval následne k hierarchickým formám, ktoré postupne menia svoju formu (aj tu však vidia anarchisti ten neustály zápas utlačovaných a utláčateľov). To je fajn, ale ten predpoklad, že teraz to takto musí zostať a keďže to je väčšinové, tak je to aj "dobré," stojí na vode.
Pochopitelne to zas vychadza z vseobecnej nerovnosti, ktora existuje ako biologicky fakt. Najlahsie sa to vyjadruje odchylkami v inteligencii, ale vrodenych rozdielov medzi ludmi je mnozstvo. Je nemozne aby kazdy jedinec v spolocnosti mal predpoklady a zrucnosti na vsetko
Ak si odvodil z tohto
"..task rotation, skill-sharing.." to
zručnosti na všetko, tak ide o úmyselné zavádzanie. Samozrejme, že medzi ľuďmi sú rozdiely, každý sme iný, máme iné schopnosti a predpoklady. Čiže, podľa hesla: každý podľa svojich schopnosti, ja dokážem vykonávať x prác, ale prácu v IT, "s počítačmi," to by asi nebolo to pravé orechové. Ale máme tu javatara, beardieho a kopu iných, ktorý by práve v tejto oblasti mohli pohodlne a bez problémov robiť
"..task rotation, skill-sharing.." Proste nejde o nejaký umelý robotizmus, ale o akceptovanie každého individuality a jeho schopností a možností.
Aj pri teoretickej funkcnosti anarchistickej spolocnosti nebude jej organizovanost a produktivita moct superit s konkurencnymi hierarchicky strukturovanymi spolocnostami (ktore nebudu zdielat jej predstavu o slobode), co ju robi zranitelnu (neobranyschopnu) k vonkajsiemu ohrozeniu.
Áno, a na to máš aké podklady? Okrem toho, že to možno vyvrátiť aj na priamych príkladoch produkcie napr. španielskeho hospodárstva, tak úplne jednoduché zamyslenie: ak ľudia niečo robia a vykonávajú dobrovoľne, na základe spolupráce ku prospechu vlastných potrieb, vždy je to kvalitatívne niekde inde. Ono, tá hierarchicky štrukturovaná spoločnosť tu je dnes, takže krásne môžeš vidieť všetky tie "úspechy," ktoré prináša, spolu s tými defektami na ľudskom chovaní a správaní sa.
A ak hovoríš o nejakom účelovom ignorovaní evolúcie a zároveň veríš na ten primitívny výklad evolúcie typu, "silnejší prežije a neustály boj medzi všetkými," tak je to dosť úsmevné. Evolúcia sa dá chápať aj inak, k tomu len Kropotkinovo dielo Mutual Aid. Ten výklad neustáleho boja a pod. je už od pohľadu nezmysel. Aj to prispôsobovanie sa prostrediu - možno prevrátiť. Nemusí ísť len o prispôsobeniu sa DANÉMU prostrediu, ktoré je už nejak určené a nemenné. Možno to chápať (a tak sa to aj deje), že sa vyvinie úsilie to prostredie zmeniť, tak, aby bolo vyhovujúce.
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"Man can adapt himself to slavery, but he reacts to it by lowering his intellectual and moral qualities . . . Man can adapt himself to cultural conditions which demand the repression of sexual strivings, but in achieving this adaptation he develops . . . neurotic symptoms. He can adapt to almost any culture pattern, but in so far as these are contradictory to his nature he develops mental and emotional disturbances which force him eventually change these conditions since he cannot change his nature. . . . If . . . man could adapt himself to all conditions without fighting those which are against his nature, he would have no history. Human evolution is rooted in man's adaptability and in certain indestructible qualities of his nature which compel him to search for conditions better adjusted to his intrinsic needs." [Eric Fromm, Man for Himself., pp. 22-23]
javatar: Škoda reagovať, je to zbytočné. Po prvé preto, že nejde o anarchizmus a po druhé, že to je nereálne.
Ešte k rozšíreniu tejto debaty o možnosti prekonania hierarchického a štátneho usporiadania pripájam odkaz na sekciu, ktorá s tým úzko súvisí - a to anarchistický pohľad na ľudskú náturu, resp. prirodzenosť.
A.2.15 What about "human nature"?
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"Individuals are certainly capable of evil . . . But individuals are capable of all sorts of things. Human nature has lots of ways of realising itself, humans have lots of capacities and options. Which ones reveal themselves depends to a large extent on the institutional structures. If we had institutions which permitted pathological killers free rein, they'd be running the place. The only way to survive would be to let those elements of your nature manifest themselves.
"If we have institutions which make greed the sole property of human beings and encourage pure greed at the expense of other human emotions and commitments, we're going to have a society based on greed, with all that follows. A different society might be organised in such a way that human feelings and emotions of other sorts, say, solidarity, support, sympathy become dominant. Then you'll have different aspects of human nature and personality revealing themselves." [Chronicles of Dissent, pp. 158]
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Moreover, as noted, Anarchists argue that hierarchical organisations bring out the worse in human nature. Both the oppressor and the oppressed are negatively affected by the authoritarian relationships so produced. "It is a characteristic of privilege and of every kind of privilege," argued Bakunin, "to kill the mind and heart of man . . . That is a social law which admits no exceptions . . . It is the law of equality and humanity." [God and the State, p. 31] And while the privileged become corrupted by power, the powerless (in general) become servile in heart and mind (luckily the human spirit is such that there will always be rebels no matter the oppression for where there is oppression, there is resistance and, consequently, hope). As such, it seems strange for anarchists to hear non-anarchists justify hierarchy in terms of the (distorted) "human nature" it produces.
Sadly, too many have done precisely this. It continues to this day. For example, with the rise of "sociobiology," some claim (with very little real evidence) that capitalism is a product of our "nature," which is determined by our genes. These claims are simply a new variation of the "human nature" argument and have, unsurprisingly, been leapt upon by the powers that be. Considering the dearth of evidence, their support for this "new" doctrine must be purely the result of its utility to those in power -- i.e. the fact that it is useful to have an "objective" and "scientific" basis to rationalise inequalities in wealth and power (for a discussion of this process see Not in Our Genes: Biology, Ideology and Human Nature by Steven Rose, R.C. Lewontin and Leon J. Kamin).
This is not to say that it does not hold a grain of truth. As scientist Stephen Jay Gould notes, "the range of our potential behaviour is circumscribed by our biology" and if this is what sociobiology means "by genetic control, then we can scarcely disagree." However, this is not what is meant. Rather, it is a form of "biological determinism" that sociobiology argues for. Saying that there are specific genes for specific human traits says little for while "[v]iolence, sexism, and general nastiness are biological since they represent one subset of a possible range of behaviours" so are "peacefulness, equality, and kindness." And so "we may see their influence increase if we can create social structures that permit them to flourish." That this may be the case can be seen from the works of sociobiologists themselves, who "acknowledge diversity" in human cultures while "often dismiss[ing] the uncomfortable 'exceptions' as temporary and unimportant aberrations." This is surprising, for if you believe that "repeated, often genocidal warfare has shaped our genetic destiny, the existence of nonaggressive peoples is embarrassing." [Ever Since Darwin, p. 252, p. 257 and p. 254]
Like the social Darwinism that preceded it, sociobiology proceeds by first projecting the dominant ideas of current society onto nature (often unconsciously, so that scientists mistakenly consider the ideas in question as both "normal" and "natural"). Bookchin refers to this as "the subtle projection of historically conditioned human values" onto nature rather than "scientific objectivity." Then the theories of nature produced in this manner are transferred back onto society and history, being used to "prove" that the principles of capitalism (hierarchy, authority, competition, etc.) are eternal laws, which are then appealed to as a justification for the status quo! "What this procedure does accomplish," notes Bookchin, "is reinforce human social hierarchies by justifying the command of men and women as innate features of the 'natural order.' Human domination is thereby transcribed into the genetic code as biologically immutable." [The Ecology of Freedom, p. 95 and p. 92] Amazingly, there are many supposedly intelligent people who take this sleight-of-hand seriously.
This can be seen when "hierarchies" in nature are used to explain, and so justify, hierarchies in human societies. Such analogies are misleading for they forget the institutional nature of human life. As Murray Bookchin notes in his critique of sociobiology, a "weak, enfeebled, unnerved, and sick ape is hardly likely to become an 'alpha' male, much less retain this highly ephemeral 'status.' By contrast, the most physically and mentally pathological human rulers have exercised authority with devastating effect in the course of history." This "expresses a power of hierarchical institutions over persons that is completely reversed in so-called 'animal hierarchies' where the absence of institutions is precisely the only intelligible way of talking about 'alpha males' or 'queen bees.'" ["Sociobiology or Social Ecology", Which way for the Ecology Movement?, p. 58] Thus what makes human society unique is conveniently ignored and the real sources of power in society are hidden under a genetic screen.
The sort of apologetics associated with appeals to "human nature" (or sociobiology at its worse) are natural, of course, because every ruling class needs to justify their right to rule. Hence they support doctrines that defined the latter in ways appearing to justify elite power -- be it sociobiology, divine right, original sin, etc. Obviously, such doctrines have always been wrong . . . until now, of course, as it is obvious our current society truly conforms to "human nature" and it has been scientifically proven by our current scientific priesthood!
The arrogance of this claim is truly amazing. History hasn't stopped. One thousand years from now, society will be completely different from what it is presently or from what anyone has imagined. No government in place at the moment will still be around, and the current economic system will not exist. The only thing that may remain the same is that people will still be claiming that their new society is the "One True System" that completely conforms to human nature, even though all past systems did not.
Of course, it does not cross the minds of supporters of capitalism that people from different cultures may draw different conclusions from the same facts -- conclusions that may be more valid. Nor does it occur to capitalist apologists that the theories of the "objective" scientists may be framed in the context of the dominant ideas of the society they live in. It comes as no surprise to anarchists, however, that scientists working in Tsarist Russia developed a theory of evolution based on cooperation within species, quite unlike their counterparts in capitalist Britain, who developed a theory based on competitive struggle within and between species. That the latter theory reflected the dominant political and economic theories of British society (notably competitive individualism) is pure coincidence, of course.
Kropotkin's classic work Mutual Aid, for example, was written in response to the obvious inaccuracies that British representatives of Darwinism had projected onto nature and human life. Building upon the mainstream Russian criticism of the British Darwinism of the time, Kropotkin showed (with substantial empirical evidence) that "mutual aid" within a group or species played as important a role as "mutual struggle" between individuals within those groups or species (see Stephan Jay Gould's essay "Kropotkin was no Crackpot" in his book Bully for Brontosaurus for details and an evaluation). It was, he stressed, a "factor" in evolution along with competition, a factor which, in most circumstances, was far more important to survival. Thus co-operation is just as "natural" as competition so proving that "human nature" was not a barrier to anarchism as co-operation between members of a species can be the best pathway to advantage individuals.
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B.1.6 Can hierarchy be ended?
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Hierarchy can be ended, both in specific forms and in general. A quick look at the history of the human species shows that this is the case. People who have been subject to monarchy have ended it, creating republics where before absolutism reigned. Slavery and serfdom have been abolished. Alexander Berkman simply stated the obvious when he pointed out that "many ideas, once held to be true, have come to be regarded as wrong and evil. Thus the ideas of divine right of kings, of slavery and serfdom. There was a time when the whole world believed those institutions to be right, just, and unchangeable." However, they became "discredited and lost their hold upon the people, and finally the institutions that incorporated those ideas were abolished" as "they were useful only to the master class" and "were done away with by popular uprisings and revolutions." [What is Anarchism?, p. 178] It is unlikely, therefore, that current forms of hierarchy are exceptions to this process.
Je to dosť dôležitá otázka, pretože dominantné posolstvo vládnucich tried, s ktorým sa stretávame a ktoré tu mnohí preberáte je to, že ľudia nie sú schopní (z viacerých dôvodov) spravovať spoločnosť sami, bez vlády a autorít, ale naopak, potrebujú hierarchické, štátne usporiadania a vládnuce elity.
Ďalej si treba uvedomiť, že štát má viaceré funkcie, od primárnych, po pomocné, ale prakticky všetky nakoniec smerujú ku prospechu vládnucej politickej a ekonomickej triedy, nie drvivej väčšiny ľudí.
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The main function of the state is to guarantee the existing social relationships and their sources within a given society through centralised power and a monopoly of violence.
Toto v podstate priznávali aj otcovia ekonomického liberalizmu, je úsmevné, že dnes sa to ta zatĺka, pričom to možno nájsť v ich klasických dielach.
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This role of the state -- to protect capitalism and the property, power and authority of the property owner -- was also noticed by Adam Smith:
"[T]he inequality of fortune . . . introduces among men a degree of authority and subordination which could not possibly exist before. It thereby introduces some degree of that civil government which is indispensably necessary for its own preservation . . . [and] to maintain and secure that authority and subordination. The rich, in particular, are necessarily interested to support that order of things which can alone secure them in the possession of their own advantages. Men of inferior wealth combine to defend those of superior wealth in the possession of their property, in order that men of superior wealth may combine to defend them in the possession of theirs . . . [T]he maintenance of their lesser authority depends upon that of his greater authority, and that upon their subordination to him depends his power of keeping their inferiors in subordination to them. They constitute a sort of little nobility, who feel themselves interested to defend the property and to support the authority of their own little sovereign in order that he may be able to defend their property and to support their authority. Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all." [The Wealth of Nations, book 5, pp. 412-3]
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The state, therefore, is "the political expression of the economic structure" of society and, therefore, "the representative of the people who own or control the wealth of the community and the oppressor of the people who do the work which creates the wealth." [Nicholas Walter, About Anarchism, p. 37] It is therefore no exaggeration to say that the state is the extractive apparatus of society's parasites.
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We can generalise two main forms of subsidiary functions of the state. The first one is to boost the interests of the ruling elite either nationally or internationally beyond just defending their property. The second is to protect society against the negative effects of the capitalist market.
Čiže Ivan, funkcia štátu a zákonov je jasná. Primárne slúžia ku prospechu tým hore. Čiže žiadny minimálny štát, žiadne "dobré zákony." To sú mýty.