jin153 napísal:No neviem ako vy ale podla mna to myslia dost vazne.. .Bol som na jednom zhromazdeni Ligy za oslobodenie palestiny v Bejrute a znelo to dost fanaticky, ked vezmem do uvahy ze polovica publika boli ludia do 20 zastavam nazor ze si buduje armadu proti izraelu... esteze izrael neni tupy a uvedomuje si nebezpecenstvo... ak zasiahne iran ma po chlebe

andy123 napísal:tak tomu ver, ja som jeden z ludi ktori tieto zasadnutia zariaduju - kupujem im mineralku a prisuvam stolicky. a co sa pritom clovek nedozvie....

(PS: sorry timo - nerieste)

Iran's new president has repeated a remark from a former ayatollah that Israel should be "wiped out from the map," insisting that a new series of attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashing out at Muslim countries and leaders that acknowledge Israel.

The remarks by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- reported by Islamic Republic News Agency -- coincide with a month-long protest against Israel called "World without Zionism" and with the approach of Jerusalem Day.

World without Zionism is a nationwide event the planners intend to hold annually, and Ahmadinejad made the remarks during a meeting with protesting students at the Interior Ministry.

Ahmadinejad quoted a remark from Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, who said that Israel "must be wiped out from the map of the world."

The president then said: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," according to a quote published by IRNA.

The Jewish state has diplomatic relations with major Muslim countries such as Egypt, Jordan and Turkey, and the Gaza disengagement has improved ties between Israel and some other Muslim nations and leaders.

But Ahmadinejad said the "new wave of confrontations generated in Palestine and the growing turmoil in the Islamic world would in no time wipe Israel away," according to paraphrased statements in the IRNA report.

He also described Israel's disengagement from Gaza as a "trick" meant to make "Islamic states acknowledge the Zionist regime of Israel," according to the report.

The United States and Israel are sowing "discord among warring forces in Palestine and other parts of the Islamic world," the report paraphrased Ahmadinejad as saying.

In the process, such attempts were forcing Muslim nations to normalize relations with Israel, he said.

Ahmadinejad is quoted as saying, "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

Ahmadinejad sparked widespread international condemnation in October when he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Last week, he also expressed doubt about the killing by the Nazis of six million Jews during World War II, but Wednesday was the first occasion when he said in public that the Holocaust was a myth.

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets," Ahmadinejad said in a speech to thousands of people in the Iranian city of Zahedan, according to a report on Wednesday from Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting.

"The West has given more significance to the myth of the genocide of the Jews, even more significant than God, religion, and the prophets," he said. "(It) deals very severely with those who deny this myth but does not do anything to those who deny God, religion, and the prophet."

"If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel," Ahmadinejad said.

"Our question is, if you have committed this huge crime, why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?"

jin153 napísal:No neviem ako vy ale podla mna to myslia dost vazne.. .Bol som na jednom zhromazdeni Ligy za oslobodenie palestiny v Bejrute a znelo to dost fanaticky, ked vezmem do uvahy ze polovica publika boli ludia do 20 zastavam nazor ze si buduje armadu proti izraelu... esteze izrael neni tupy a uvedomuje si nebezpecenstvo... ak zasiahne iran ma po chlebe

zelovoc napísal:ja neviem ci to mysli vazne, skor mam pocit ze musi nieco povedat aby ho ti vlastny arabi nezozrali. Vsimnite si ze vo vsetkych (temer) arabskych krajinach vladne tvrdy, autokraticky rezim, jednoducho ich inak nevedia udrzat na uzde tych arabov salenych.Iran dobre vie ze proti Izraelu nema sancu.nema. Aj ked s tym co ten Iranec povedal suhlasim, 6 milionov je podla mna premrstene cislo a pravdou je ze na Zidov a Izrael nikto nemoze povedat ziadnu kritiku lebo ho hned obvinia z antisionizmu, fasizmu a neviem coho este. Cely tento svet je jedna skuvena vec. je to smutne no

Tomasito napísal:V mnohom sa da vsak s Ahmadim Nezadom suhlasit, najma s ohladom na okolnosti vzniku statu Izrael. A pokial ide o to, ze si buduje armadu? Ja byt na jeho mieste, tak po tom co USA doteraz predviedli v tamojsom regione, a po tom co niekolko krat ci uz viac alebo menej otvorene polemizovali nad moznostou zautocit na Iran, budoval by som tiez. USA vdacime za precedens, ktory spociva v tom, ze dnes mozu beztrestne napadnut kohokolvek na koho sa citia a ostatny svet sa bude len mlcky prizerat.

jin153 napísal:Preboha... tato zem je ich geograficky uz viac ako 1500 rokov zato ze tam arabi boli poslednych 200 rokov neznamena hned ze je ich... tato zem bola sionistom zasnubena uz v svatom pisme

Tomasito napísal:V koho svatom pisme? Vies za akych okolnosti zidia opustili tuto odveky vekov zem povodnych palestincanov, kde uz vtedy tvorili minoritu? Vies, kde mal byt podla duchovneho otca sionizmu- Theodora Herzla- povodne zalozeny ich stat? Preboha...

jin153 napísal:Np neviem kto je podla teba smerodatnejsi... ci Theodor Hertzl alebo zidovsky boh... odkazujem ta na Genesis alebo si precitaj knihu Ó Jeruzaleme od Larryho Collinsa zmienka o ceste hebrejcov je na strane 35

Preboha... tato zem je ich geograficky uz viac ako 1500 rokov zato ze tam arabi boli poslednych 200 rokov neznamena hned ze je ich... tato zem bola sionistom zasnubena uz v svatom pisme

Np neviem kto je podla teba smerodatnejsi... ci Theodor Hertzl alebo zidovsky boh... odkazujem ta na Genesis alebo si precitaj knihu Ó Jeruzaleme od Larryho Collinsa zmienka o ceste hebrejcov je na strane 35

p4ra napísal:Dufam, ze tam nabehnu USA + GB a spravia s teepkom poriadky skor, nez zomru tisice nevinnych ludi.

jin153 napísal:Pozri moje argumenty a nazory na tuto zalezitost su cisto subjektivne a vsetky fakty som cerpal z odbornej literatury na ktoru som odkazal uz skor... Ja osobne im drzim palce, lebo podla mna by si uz po vsetkych utrapach ako narod zasluzili vlastne uzemie kde by im niekto dal pokoj...

jin153 napísal:ja by som to hned neriesil konfliktom na medzikontinentalnej urovni... nechal by som, aby situacia trocha vykristalizovala...