Vojna na Ukrajine
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Mne sa paci, ako terorista r**bar, ktory pred skoro dvoma mesiacmi, tyzden pred zaciatkom ofenzivy, pisal ako sa cele ZSU vrhli proti jedinej luke a vsetci tam pomreli a teraz pise o jej uspechoch. Kto vie, kto tam teraz bojuje. Ale tak je to zamestnanec ministerstva lzi, takze sranie si do rypaku je jeho praca. No mozno ho postihne osud inych luharov, ktorych zasoby sa tento tyzden vyrazne zmensili.
Je uplne jedno aka stara je technika od NATO. Nepriatel na BTRka montuje raketnice pre Mi 24 a pouziva T 55. Neide o boj proti T 90, ktorych kazdy den ukrajinske drony niekolko vyradia.
Ak my, na nasich gaucoch a stolickach vieme, kde je ake nepriatelovo opevnenie, preco cakame, ze sa ZSU rozbehnu proti nemu? U nich to nikto nevie? A kedze okupant prichadza o zasoby, zalohy a velitelov, tak mu mozno na tych skutocnych liniach ostanu len vyhladovani mobici, ktori budu mat stolici az za usami.
Je uplne jedno aka stara je technika od NATO. Nepriatel na BTRka montuje raketnice pre Mi 24 a pouziva T 55. Neide o boj proti T 90, ktorych kazdy den ukrajinske drony niekolko vyradia.
Ak my, na nasich gaucoch a stolickach vieme, kde je ake nepriatelovo opevnenie, preco cakame, ze sa ZSU rozbehnu proti nemu? U nich to nikto nevie? A kedze okupant prichadza o zasoby, zalohy a velitelov, tak mu mozno na tych skutocnych liniach ostanu len vyhladovani mobici, ktori budu mat stolici az za usami.
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Tu je hlavne nespravne ocakavat ze do ofenzivy nutne Ukrajinci poslu kazdy jeden kus techniky co maju. Normalne su straty 20-30% povazovane za dostatocne velke na to, aby sa ukoncili operacie. To iste plati aj pri tejto ofenzive. Ukrajinci tam nebudu ako namesacni posielat vsetky brigady, ak tie predosle nedosiahli ocakavany uspech. Ak maju na ofenzivu pripravenych povedzme 12 brigad a 6 si rozbiju bez dosiahnutia vyznamnejsieho uspechu, nema pre nich zmysel tam posielat aj zvysnych 6, kedze uz im beztak nezostavaju zalohy, ktore by sa do pripadneho prieniku dostali. Tento narativ, ze pokial tam neuvidime kazdy jeden system co maju tak do toho "nedali vsetko" je z principu nespravny.mLuks napísal: 26 júl 2023, 19:52 Až keď do bojov zasiahnu Mardery, CV-90, Strykery, Challengre či pôvodne švédske Leopardy, až potom sa bude môcť hovoriť o vrchole ukrajinskej ofenzívy. A až keď sa Rusom podarí odraziť aj tieto jednotky, tak až potom o jej zlyhaní. Zatiaľ to hlavné stále iba má prísť.
ta vyboldovaná časť najmä pre goga
IMO mozeme ocakavat este jedne vacsi tlak. Ten sa mozno aj teraz zacal - na juhu opat vidno vacsie kvanta techniky - a ak to nevypali tak tato letna ofenziva zrejme skonci neuspechom. Teraz je zrejme ze Ukrajinci su oproti svojim planom neuspesni (aj z toho co hovoria samotni Ukrajinci, napr. Zelensky), ale to samozrejme neznamena ze nejaky uspech este nedosiahnu.
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Cital som, ze by sa mal teraz zacat ten ich hlavny letny utoks tym ze vecsina zaloh nebola pouzita, kazdopadne, hlavny nehlavny, s pomocou aku dostavaju to tak aj dopadne, neda sa od toho ocakavat neviem co, pokym si zapad na cele s US viac nezastane UA, tak to bude zdlhave, hlavne Europa a aj US vsadzaju a vsadzali na to ze sa UA vzda, a je ulohou UA presviedcat, ze sa tak nestane. Na zapade sa to z prvotneho soku dostalo do roviny osobneho zaujmu, no z politickej stranky tam stale nevidim to zanietenie, je to akoby pod povrchom, zamaskovane kazdodenným dianím. O Rusku uz ani nehovorím, tam sa to snazia vsetci vytesnit z hláv najlepsie ako sa dá.
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Podla tychto poslednych sprav sa zda ze tak ako sa aj od zaciatku predpokladalo, hlavnym cielom bude mesto Melitopol resp najprv Tokmak.
Btw ruske opevnenia sa nachadzaju zakreslene aj tu https://deepstatemap.live/en#9/47.5673/36.2219 len treba aktitovat druhu option
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Podla tychto poslednych sprav sa zda ze tak ako sa aj od zaciatku predpokladalo, hlavnym cielom bude mesto Melitopol resp najprv Tokmak.
Btw ruske opevnenia sa nachadzaju zakreslene aj tu https://deepstatemap.live/en#9/47.5673/36.2219 len treba aktitovat druhu option
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By ma zaujimalo ze ci je to vtip, alebo to akoze naozaj nyt pisu dopredu o odvaznom plane protiofenzivy aby mohli potom napisat, ze napriek tej (mizernej), citaj bombastickej vojenskej pomoci, neboli ukrajinci schopni naplnit svoje ciele a treba sa naozaj zamysliet, ci treba bojovat za kazdu cenu...hlavne ked sa zvolebnieva a teda vsetko ide na druhu kolaj.gogo956 napísal: 27 júl 2023, 10:29 Ukrajinci chtějí odříznout Krym od Ruska. NYT popsal odvážný plán protiofenzivy - CNN Prima NEWS
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‘This is the big test’: U.S. officials describe a new Ukrainian effort to sever Russia’s hold on the south.
U.S. officials describe a 3-point rationale for Ukraine’s new push.
Russia launches another barrage of missiles across Ukraine.
‘This is the big test’: U.S. officials describe a new Ukrainian effort to sever Russia’s hold on the south.
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The main thrust of Ukraine’s nearly two-month-old counteroffensive is now underway in the country’s southeast, two Pentagon officials said on Wednesday, with thousands of reinforcements pouring into the grinding battle, many of them trained and equipped by the West and, until now, held in reserve.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the campaign. Their comments dovetailed with reports from the battlefield on Wednesday, where artillery battles flared along the southern front line in the Zaporizhzhia region.
And Igor Konashenkov, the Russian Defense Ministry’s chief spokesman, reported a “massive” assault and fierce battles south of Orikhiv, a town that Ukraine holds about 60 miles north of the Sea of Azov. Vladimir Rogov, an official appointed by Moscow in southern Ukraine, said the assault involved Ukrainian troops who had been trained abroad and were equipped with about 100 armored vehicles, including German-made Leopards and American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Another Russian occupation official in Zaporizhzhia, Yevgeny Balitsky, said that Ukraine had made 36 attempts to shell settlements in the region since Tuesday. Russian assertions that the Ukrainian attacks had been repelled could not be immediately verified.
Ukrainian troops along the southern front said in interviews on Wednesday that they were steadily pushing Russian troops back, but their progress had been incremental with no major breakthroughs. They have been slowed by minefields, and some said the biggest obstacles were Russia’s withering artillery fire and airstrikes.
Ukrainian officials have told U.S. officials that the enlarged Ukrainian force would try to advance south through Russia’s minefields and other fortifications toward the city of Tokmak, and, if successful, on to Melitopol, near the coast.
Their goal is to sever the so-called land bridge between Russian-occupied Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula, or at least advance far enough to put the strategically important peninsula within range of Ukrainian artillery. Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, and uses it as the base for its Black Sea fleet as well as to supply its forces in the south.
The new operation, if successful, could take one to three weeks, Ukrainian officials have told officials in Washington.
However, little has gone according to plan since the counteroffensive started early in June, and officials at the White House and Pentagon said on Wednesday they were watching the increased activity with keen interest.
“This is the big test,” said one senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
— Eric Schmitt reporting from Washington
Ukraine’s Counteroffensive: Ukraine has launched the main thrust of its counteroffensive, throwing in thousands of troops held in reserve, many of them Western-trained and equipped, U.S. officials said.
Escalating Grain Attacks: Russia attacked a port on the Danube River in Ukraine, close to the Romanian border, destroying a grain hangar in an escalation of the Kremlin’s efforts to cripple Kyiv’s agriculture.
Frontline Training: The Ukrainian military, straining to replenish its ranks in the middle of the war, trains soldiers and puts them through a grueling obstacle course even after they are deployed to the front.
U.S. officials describe a 3-point rationale for Ukraine’s new push.
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A vehicle-based rocket launcher firing a missile with a burst of flame from the front and back.
Ukrainian Marines from the 36th Brigade firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region this month.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
For more than seven weeks, Ukrainian troops have fought along three main fronts across several hundred miles in the country’s east and southeast, pressing to find a weak spot in the heavily dug-in Russian defenses to burst through.
American officials said on Wednesday that Ukrainian officials told them that Ukraine was now engaged in the main thrust of the counteroffensive, throwing more troops and equipment at the westernmost of the three fronts, near Zaporizhzhia.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss Ukraine’s war plans, cited three reasons.
First, Ukrainian forces have been making plodding but steady progress clearing a path through the dense Russian minefields and other fortifications. Second, they sensed an opportunity with the sacking of the regional Russian commander, Maj. Gen. Ivan Popov, to exploit turmoil in the local Russian leadership.
Last month, General Popov addressed his troops in a four-minute recording, accusing his superiors of inflicting a blow on his forces by removing him from his post in retaliation for voicing the truth about battlefield problems to senior leadership behind closed doors.
And third, Ukrainian artillery barrages have been steadily attacking Russian artillery, ammunition depots and command posts in areas well behind the front lines, creating a vulnerability to exploit if advancing Ukrainian forces can punch through the Russian defenses, and cause havoc in the rear.
“The Russians are stretched,” a Western official said on Wednesday, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss operational details and intelligence assessments. “They are still experiencing problems with logistics, supply, personnel and weapons. They’re feeling the pressure.”
— Eric Schmitt reporting from Washington
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Ukrainian troops say they are making step-by-step progress in the south.
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A Ukrainian Marine and his unit move after firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine earlier this month.
A Ukrainian Marine and his unit move after firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine earlier this month.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
The sound of artillery battles could be heard in villages all along the front line in southern Ukraine on Wednesday. Ukrainian guns fired steadily from hidden positions and Russian artillery and mortars targeted former Russian positions and villages now occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Ukrainian troops deployed along the southern front as part of the counteroffensive say they are steadily pushing the Russian troops back, but they describe their progress as step by step, rather than breakthrough movements.
The front in Zaporizhzhia is one of three axes of Ukraine’s counteroffensive. One Ukrainian military objective is to reach the Sea of Azov, driving a wedge between Russian-occupied territories in southern and eastern Ukraine.
But Russian forces have built a layered defense of minefields, tank traps and fortified positions that stretches along the length of the front line and runs at least 20 miles deep. In the two months since their counteroffensive began, the Ukrainians have had to cross these heavily mined fields and tree lines to take dug-in Russian positions, while coming under heavy bombardment and frequent airstrikes.
The devastating artillery fire and powerful aviation bombs have hampered them the most, soldiers on the front line said.
On Wednesday morning a Ukrainian jet flew low over the front line, firing rockets at Russian positions before banking away sharply and releasing flares to deflect any antiaircraft fire.
Some of Ukraine’s newly trained brigades, many of them equipped with Western armored fighting vehicles and personnel carriers, are engaged in the fighting alongside well-established units of marines and mechanized infantry. The Ukrainian army command has said that not all the new Western-provided weapons are in use yet.
The strength of Russia’s firepower has forced the Ukrainians to adjust their tactics, but Ukrainian officials say they are still progressing and in some places have succeeded in breaching the first line of Russian defenses.
That may open the way to faster progress in coming weeks, some officials have hinted, but the army command is also focused on straightening the front line to prevent bulges that would expose the advancing units to a flanking movement.
— Carlotta Gall reporting from the Zaporizhzhia region in Ukraine
Ukrainian forces launched a significant attack south of the town of Orikhiv in the Zaporizhzhia region, Russia’s Defense Ministry said on Wednesday, suggesting that a new phase of Kyiv’s southern counteroffensive might be underway.
Ukraine deployed three battalions reinforced with tanks, said Igor Konashenkov, the Russian Defense Ministry’s chief spokesman, but he added that the “massive” attack and a second one near Robotyne, a Russian-held frontline village around eight miles southeast of Orikhiv, had been repelled.
Mr. Konashenkov’s comments, reported by the Russian state news agency Tass, could not be independently confirmed, and Ukrainian officials did not directly comment. But the area south of Orikhiv, a town that Ukraine holds, is a key battleground in its push to expel Russian forces from the south and east of the country, and both sides have built up their forces in the area.
Ukraine’s counteroffensive — launched last month along three axes including in Zaporizhzhia — has failed to score a breakthrough, in part because of dense Russian minefields and heavy entrenchment by Moscow’s forces.
A major Ukrainian military objective is to reach the Sea of Azov, about 60 miles south of Orikhiv, in order to drive a wedge through Russian-occupied territory in Ukraine’s southeast.
Vladimir Rogov, an official appointed by Moscow in southern Ukraine, said on the Telegram app that fierce battles had begun south of Orikhiv, involving Ukrainian troops who had been trained abroad and were equipped with about 100 armored vehicles, including German-made Leopard tanks and American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Another Russian occupation official in Zaporizhzhia, Yevgeny Balitsky, said that Ukraine had made 36 attempts to shell settlements in the region since Tuesday. He said that Moscow’s forces had rebuffed Ukrainian attempts to break through Russian defenses.
The Ukrainian military’s general staff said in its daily update on Wednesday that Russian forces were engaged in defensive operations in the Zaporizhzhia region. A spokesman for the general staff, Andriy Kovalev, said that Russian forces had unsuccessfully tried to restore lost positions northeast of Robotyne. “The enemy continues to put up strong resistance, moves units and actively uses reserves,” he said.
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that he had met with Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, the commander of Ukraine’s armed forces, and discussed offensive and defensive fighting on the front line. “We believe in our boys,” Mr. Zelensky said on Telegram, giving no details of military operations. “We continue to work.”
— Matthew Mpoke Bigg
‘This is the big test’: U.S. officials describe a new Ukrainian effort to sever Russia’s hold on the south.
U.S. officials describe a 3-point rationale for Ukraine’s new push.
Russia launches another barrage of missiles across Ukraine.
‘This is the big test’: U.S. officials describe a new Ukrainian effort to sever Russia’s hold on the south.
Image
The main thrust of Ukraine’s nearly two-month-old counteroffensive is now underway in the country’s southeast, two Pentagon officials said on Wednesday, with thousands of reinforcements pouring into the grinding battle, many of them trained and equipped by the West and, until now, held in reserve.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the campaign. Their comments dovetailed with reports from the battlefield on Wednesday, where artillery battles flared along the southern front line in the Zaporizhzhia region.
And Igor Konashenkov, the Russian Defense Ministry’s chief spokesman, reported a “massive” assault and fierce battles south of Orikhiv, a town that Ukraine holds about 60 miles north of the Sea of Azov. Vladimir Rogov, an official appointed by Moscow in southern Ukraine, said the assault involved Ukrainian troops who had been trained abroad and were equipped with about 100 armored vehicles, including German-made Leopards and American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Another Russian occupation official in Zaporizhzhia, Yevgeny Balitsky, said that Ukraine had made 36 attempts to shell settlements in the region since Tuesday. Russian assertions that the Ukrainian attacks had been repelled could not be immediately verified.
Ukrainian troops along the southern front said in interviews on Wednesday that they were steadily pushing Russian troops back, but their progress had been incremental with no major breakthroughs. They have been slowed by minefields, and some said the biggest obstacles were Russia’s withering artillery fire and airstrikes.
Ukrainian officials have told U.S. officials that the enlarged Ukrainian force would try to advance south through Russia’s minefields and other fortifications toward the city of Tokmak, and, if successful, on to Melitopol, near the coast.
Their goal is to sever the so-called land bridge between Russian-occupied Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula, or at least advance far enough to put the strategically important peninsula within range of Ukrainian artillery. Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, and uses it as the base for its Black Sea fleet as well as to supply its forces in the south.
The new operation, if successful, could take one to three weeks, Ukrainian officials have told officials in Washington.
However, little has gone according to plan since the counteroffensive started early in June, and officials at the White House and Pentagon said on Wednesday they were watching the increased activity with keen interest.
“This is the big test,” said one senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
— Eric Schmitt reporting from Washington
Ukraine’s Counteroffensive: Ukraine has launched the main thrust of its counteroffensive, throwing in thousands of troops held in reserve, many of them Western-trained and equipped, U.S. officials said.
Escalating Grain Attacks: Russia attacked a port on the Danube River in Ukraine, close to the Romanian border, destroying a grain hangar in an escalation of the Kremlin’s efforts to cripple Kyiv’s agriculture.
Frontline Training: The Ukrainian military, straining to replenish its ranks in the middle of the war, trains soldiers and puts them through a grueling obstacle course even after they are deployed to the front.
U.S. officials describe a 3-point rationale for Ukraine’s new push.
Image
A vehicle-based rocket launcher firing a missile with a burst of flame from the front and back.
Ukrainian Marines from the 36th Brigade firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region this month.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
For more than seven weeks, Ukrainian troops have fought along three main fronts across several hundred miles in the country’s east and southeast, pressing to find a weak spot in the heavily dug-in Russian defenses to burst through.
American officials said on Wednesday that Ukrainian officials told them that Ukraine was now engaged in the main thrust of the counteroffensive, throwing more troops and equipment at the westernmost of the three fronts, near Zaporizhzhia.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss Ukraine’s war plans, cited three reasons.
First, Ukrainian forces have been making plodding but steady progress clearing a path through the dense Russian minefields and other fortifications. Second, they sensed an opportunity with the sacking of the regional Russian commander, Maj. Gen. Ivan Popov, to exploit turmoil in the local Russian leadership.
Last month, General Popov addressed his troops in a four-minute recording, accusing his superiors of inflicting a blow on his forces by removing him from his post in retaliation for voicing the truth about battlefield problems to senior leadership behind closed doors.
And third, Ukrainian artillery barrages have been steadily attacking Russian artillery, ammunition depots and command posts in areas well behind the front lines, creating a vulnerability to exploit if advancing Ukrainian forces can punch through the Russian defenses, and cause havoc in the rear.
“The Russians are stretched,” a Western official said on Wednesday, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss operational details and intelligence assessments. “They are still experiencing problems with logistics, supply, personnel and weapons. They’re feeling the pressure.”
— Eric Schmitt reporting from Washington
Show more
Ukrainian troops say they are making step-by-step progress in the south.
Image
A Ukrainian Marine and his unit move after firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine earlier this month.
A Ukrainian Marine and his unit move after firing rockets toward Russian positions in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine earlier this month.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
The sound of artillery battles could be heard in villages all along the front line in southern Ukraine on Wednesday. Ukrainian guns fired steadily from hidden positions and Russian artillery and mortars targeted former Russian positions and villages now occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Ukrainian troops deployed along the southern front as part of the counteroffensive say they are steadily pushing the Russian troops back, but they describe their progress as step by step, rather than breakthrough movements.
The front in Zaporizhzhia is one of three axes of Ukraine’s counteroffensive. One Ukrainian military objective is to reach the Sea of Azov, driving a wedge between Russian-occupied territories in southern and eastern Ukraine.
But Russian forces have built a layered defense of minefields, tank traps and fortified positions that stretches along the length of the front line and runs at least 20 miles deep. In the two months since their counteroffensive began, the Ukrainians have had to cross these heavily mined fields and tree lines to take dug-in Russian positions, while coming under heavy bombardment and frequent airstrikes.
The devastating artillery fire and powerful aviation bombs have hampered them the most, soldiers on the front line said.
On Wednesday morning a Ukrainian jet flew low over the front line, firing rockets at Russian positions before banking away sharply and releasing flares to deflect any antiaircraft fire.
Some of Ukraine’s newly trained brigades, many of them equipped with Western armored fighting vehicles and personnel carriers, are engaged in the fighting alongside well-established units of marines and mechanized infantry. The Ukrainian army command has said that not all the new Western-provided weapons are in use yet.
The strength of Russia’s firepower has forced the Ukrainians to adjust their tactics, but Ukrainian officials say they are still progressing and in some places have succeeded in breaching the first line of Russian defenses.
That may open the way to faster progress in coming weeks, some officials have hinted, but the army command is also focused on straightening the front line to prevent bulges that would expose the advancing units to a flanking movement.
— Carlotta Gall reporting from the Zaporizhzhia region in Ukraine
Ukrainian forces launched a significant attack south of the town of Orikhiv in the Zaporizhzhia region, Russia’s Defense Ministry said on Wednesday, suggesting that a new phase of Kyiv’s southern counteroffensive might be underway.
Ukraine deployed three battalions reinforced with tanks, said Igor Konashenkov, the Russian Defense Ministry’s chief spokesman, but he added that the “massive” attack and a second one near Robotyne, a Russian-held frontline village around eight miles southeast of Orikhiv, had been repelled.
Mr. Konashenkov’s comments, reported by the Russian state news agency Tass, could not be independently confirmed, and Ukrainian officials did not directly comment. But the area south of Orikhiv, a town that Ukraine holds, is a key battleground in its push to expel Russian forces from the south and east of the country, and both sides have built up their forces in the area.
Ukraine’s counteroffensive — launched last month along three axes including in Zaporizhzhia — has failed to score a breakthrough, in part because of dense Russian minefields and heavy entrenchment by Moscow’s forces.
A major Ukrainian military objective is to reach the Sea of Azov, about 60 miles south of Orikhiv, in order to drive a wedge through Russian-occupied territory in Ukraine’s southeast.
Vladimir Rogov, an official appointed by Moscow in southern Ukraine, said on the Telegram app that fierce battles had begun south of Orikhiv, involving Ukrainian troops who had been trained abroad and were equipped with about 100 armored vehicles, including German-made Leopard tanks and American-made Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Another Russian occupation official in Zaporizhzhia, Yevgeny Balitsky, said that Ukraine had made 36 attempts to shell settlements in the region since Tuesday. He said that Moscow’s forces had rebuffed Ukrainian attempts to break through Russian defenses.
The Ukrainian military’s general staff said in its daily update on Wednesday that Russian forces were engaged in defensive operations in the Zaporizhzhia region. A spokesman for the general staff, Andriy Kovalev, said that Russian forces had unsuccessfully tried to restore lost positions northeast of Robotyne. “The enemy continues to put up strong resistance, moves units and actively uses reserves,” he said.
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that he had met with Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, the commander of Ukraine’s armed forces, and discussed offensive and defensive fighting on the front line. “We believe in our boys,” Mr. Zelensky said on Telegram, giving no details of military operations. “We continue to work.”
— Matthew Mpoke Bigg
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Rusko môže nahradiť straty na Ukrajine novými regrútmi, čo znamená, že môže pokračovať vo vojne súčasným tempom ešte dlho, povedal plukovník Margo Grosberg, šéf obranného spravodajského centra.
Hoci Rusko nemá také dobré zálohy ako Ukrajinci, náborovou vlnou ohlásenou na 1. apríla bude môcť doplniť armádu o približne 190.000 mužov, povedal Grosberg v piatok na brífingu na ministerstve obrany.
Hoci si náborovou kampaňou ruské vedenie stanovilo za cieľ priviesť ďalších 400 000 vojakov pod pištoľ, na kompenzáciu doterajších strát, ktoré zostávajú okolo 140 000, by stačila aj polovica plánu, uviedol plukovník.
Grosberg uviedol, že podľa Estónska Rusko od začiatku vojny stratilo 130 000 až 140 000 vojenských osôb v podobe mŕtvych a ťažko ranených, ktorí sa už nevrátia na front.
„Ak sa teraz do konca roka podarí naverbovať ďalších asi 190 000 mužov, bude možné nahradiť straty, čo znamená, že vojna sa bude naťahovať, no zároveň to dá Rusku politickú vedenie príležitosť zdržať sa vyhlasovania mobilizácie, ako sa to stalo v septembri minulého roka. Pri tomto tempe náboru by sa mohol zachovať status quo.“ d , ako to bolo počas celého tohto roka,“ uviedol Grosberg.
Rusko postupuje na severe, Ukrajina na juhu a východe
Veliteľ Spravodajského strediska obranných síl podal prehľad aj o situácii na fronte, kde popri postupe Ukrajiny dosiahlo v niektorých oblastiach úspech aj Rusko. Kontaktná línia sa podľa Grosberga vo všeobecnosti podstatne ani výrazne nezmenila.
"Rusko aj Ukrajina však dosiahli v niektorých regiónoch taktické úspechy a najmä pokiaľ ide o napredovanie ukrajinských ozbrojených síl, môže to viesť k výrazne väčším úspechom, ak budú úspešné," dodal.
Plukovník v zálohe: Ukrajina má ešte mesiac a pol na to, aby prerazila
Iniciatíva je podľa plukovníka stále v rukách Ukrajiny pozdĺž celej frontovej línie a najväčšie úspechy dosiahla v regióne Bahmut na východe a tiež na južnom fronte.
Ruským jednotkám sa najviac darilo na hraniciach Charkovskej a Luhanskej oblasti v smere na Svatove a Kreminnu, okolo ktorých sa dosiahli určité taktické úspechy. V tomto regióne bojuje aj 76. divízia útočného vylodenia trvale umiestnená v Pskove so svojimi podjednotkami, uviedol Grosberg.
Počas minulého týždňa sa ruským jednotkám podarilo prekročiť rieku Serepets a na západnom brehu rieky vytvorili predmostie, ktoré sa podarilo udržať aj napriek zložitosti tamojšieho terénu. Keďže sa tu striedajú vrchoviny s údoliami, v ktorých tečú rieky, znamená to, že ruské jednotky, ktoré rieku prekročili, musia zaútočiť na ukrajinské pozície hore kopcom, aby postúpili, a rovnako v prípade ústupu na ústup do kopca. "To zabezpečuje Ukrajincom lepšiu viditeľnosť a možnosť oveľa jednoduchšie zaútočiť na ustupujúce ruské jednotky," povedal Grosberg.
Ukrajincom sa najviac darilo smerom na Bahmut, najmä v oblastiach južne od mesta. Ukrajinským jednotkám sa podarilo dostať do osady Kličivka a dobyť späť asi polovicu z nej.
"Osada Klichivka je asi sedem kilometrov juhozápadne od Bahmutu. A táto osada je dôležitá preto, že ak bola doteraz južná zásobovacia trasa do Bahmutu kontrolovaná diaľkovou paľbou, v prípade odobratia osady bude možné úplne odrezať cestu 0513, ktorá je hlavnou južnou zásobovacou trasou pre jednotky Ruskej federácie v Bahmute a v dôsledku toho sa situácia ruských jednotiek v Bahmute výrazne skomplikuje,“ vysvetlil Grosberg.
Prielom na Ukrajine ešte nie je istý
Najpozoruhodnejšie udalosti sa podľa plukovníka odohrali za posledný týždeň v smere na Veľkú Novossilku a Orihiv, kde sa Ukrajincom s pomocou ďalších jednotiek podarilo prelomiť prvé opevnené pásmo ruských jednotiek, kde sa dostali asi tri a pol kilometra južne od normálnej frontovej línie v oblasti obce Robotn a obce Verbove.
"Zahraničné médiá hovorili, že je to začiatok veľkej ofenzívy. Žiaľ, dnes neviem odpovedať na otázku, či je to tak alebo nie. Pri každom útoku je potrebné dosiahnuť pozície nepriateľa, preniknúť do nich a následne nimi postupovať resp. zastávať tieto pozície. A aby sme pochopili, ako úspešné sa ukázalo, že toto klinové zatláčanie je, musíme si nechať nejaký čas a uvidíme, ako sa situácia zhmotní. Je to však určite dôležitý úspech pre ukrajinské jednotky,“ povedal Grosberg.
Oslobodenie obsadených území rýchlejšie ako doteraz by znamenalo výrazné zvýšenie tempa ukrajinskej ofenzívy a vrhnutie ešte väčšieho počtu jednotiek do boja.
"Ale ako ukázali Ukrajinci v posledných mesiacoch, robí sa to veľmi rázne a držaním ich personálu. A pravdepodobne, ak sa najslabší článok ruských obranných línií veľmi šikovne nenašiel, potom je pravdepodobnejšie, že bude pokračovať v takpovediac primeranom tempe,“ vysvetlil šéf rozviedky obranných síl.
Hoci Rusko nemá také dobré zálohy ako Ukrajinci, náborovou vlnou ohlásenou na 1. apríla bude môcť doplniť armádu o približne 190.000 mužov, povedal Grosberg v piatok na brífingu na ministerstve obrany.
Hoci si náborovou kampaňou ruské vedenie stanovilo za cieľ priviesť ďalších 400 000 vojakov pod pištoľ, na kompenzáciu doterajších strát, ktoré zostávajú okolo 140 000, by stačila aj polovica plánu, uviedol plukovník.
Grosberg uviedol, že podľa Estónska Rusko od začiatku vojny stratilo 130 000 až 140 000 vojenských osôb v podobe mŕtvych a ťažko ranených, ktorí sa už nevrátia na front.
„Ak sa teraz do konca roka podarí naverbovať ďalších asi 190 000 mužov, bude možné nahradiť straty, čo znamená, že vojna sa bude naťahovať, no zároveň to dá Rusku politickú vedenie príležitosť zdržať sa vyhlasovania mobilizácie, ako sa to stalo v septembri minulého roka. Pri tomto tempe náboru by sa mohol zachovať status quo.“ d , ako to bolo počas celého tohto roka,“ uviedol Grosberg.
Rusko postupuje na severe, Ukrajina na juhu a východe
Veliteľ Spravodajského strediska obranných síl podal prehľad aj o situácii na fronte, kde popri postupe Ukrajiny dosiahlo v niektorých oblastiach úspech aj Rusko. Kontaktná línia sa podľa Grosberga vo všeobecnosti podstatne ani výrazne nezmenila.
"Rusko aj Ukrajina však dosiahli v niektorých regiónoch taktické úspechy a najmä pokiaľ ide o napredovanie ukrajinských ozbrojených síl, môže to viesť k výrazne väčším úspechom, ak budú úspešné," dodal.
Plukovník v zálohe: Ukrajina má ešte mesiac a pol na to, aby prerazila
Iniciatíva je podľa plukovníka stále v rukách Ukrajiny pozdĺž celej frontovej línie a najväčšie úspechy dosiahla v regióne Bahmut na východe a tiež na južnom fronte.
Ruským jednotkám sa najviac darilo na hraniciach Charkovskej a Luhanskej oblasti v smere na Svatove a Kreminnu, okolo ktorých sa dosiahli určité taktické úspechy. V tomto regióne bojuje aj 76. divízia útočného vylodenia trvale umiestnená v Pskove so svojimi podjednotkami, uviedol Grosberg.
Počas minulého týždňa sa ruským jednotkám podarilo prekročiť rieku Serepets a na západnom brehu rieky vytvorili predmostie, ktoré sa podarilo udržať aj napriek zložitosti tamojšieho terénu. Keďže sa tu striedajú vrchoviny s údoliami, v ktorých tečú rieky, znamená to, že ruské jednotky, ktoré rieku prekročili, musia zaútočiť na ukrajinské pozície hore kopcom, aby postúpili, a rovnako v prípade ústupu na ústup do kopca. "To zabezpečuje Ukrajincom lepšiu viditeľnosť a možnosť oveľa jednoduchšie zaútočiť na ustupujúce ruské jednotky," povedal Grosberg.
Ukrajincom sa najviac darilo smerom na Bahmut, najmä v oblastiach južne od mesta. Ukrajinským jednotkám sa podarilo dostať do osady Kličivka a dobyť späť asi polovicu z nej.
"Osada Klichivka je asi sedem kilometrov juhozápadne od Bahmutu. A táto osada je dôležitá preto, že ak bola doteraz južná zásobovacia trasa do Bahmutu kontrolovaná diaľkovou paľbou, v prípade odobratia osady bude možné úplne odrezať cestu 0513, ktorá je hlavnou južnou zásobovacou trasou pre jednotky Ruskej federácie v Bahmute a v dôsledku toho sa situácia ruských jednotiek v Bahmute výrazne skomplikuje,“ vysvetlil Grosberg.
Prielom na Ukrajine ešte nie je istý
Najpozoruhodnejšie udalosti sa podľa plukovníka odohrali za posledný týždeň v smere na Veľkú Novossilku a Orihiv, kde sa Ukrajincom s pomocou ďalších jednotiek podarilo prelomiť prvé opevnené pásmo ruských jednotiek, kde sa dostali asi tri a pol kilometra južne od normálnej frontovej línie v oblasti obce Robotn a obce Verbove.
"Zahraničné médiá hovorili, že je to začiatok veľkej ofenzívy. Žiaľ, dnes neviem odpovedať na otázku, či je to tak alebo nie. Pri každom útoku je potrebné dosiahnuť pozície nepriateľa, preniknúť do nich a následne nimi postupovať resp. zastávať tieto pozície. A aby sme pochopili, ako úspešné sa ukázalo, že toto klinové zatláčanie je, musíme si nechať nejaký čas a uvidíme, ako sa situácia zhmotní. Je to však určite dôležitý úspech pre ukrajinské jednotky,“ povedal Grosberg.
Oslobodenie obsadených území rýchlejšie ako doteraz by znamenalo výrazné zvýšenie tempa ukrajinskej ofenzívy a vrhnutie ešte väčšieho počtu jednotiek do boja.
"Ale ako ukázali Ukrajinci v posledných mesiacoch, robí sa to veľmi rázne a držaním ich personálu. A pravdepodobne, ak sa najslabší článok ruských obranných línií veľmi šikovne nenašiel, potom je pravdepodobnejšie, že bude pokračovať v takpovediac primeranom tempe,“ vysvetlil šéf rozviedky obranných síl.
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Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Vitazom nie je len Amerika, ale aj India a Cina, kde si zabezpecili lacnu rusku ropu na roky dopredu. Mimochodom posledny mesiac sa uz URALS predava nad 60$ (cenovy limit, ktory sa snazil vynutit Zapad). Samotne sankcie to pod tou hranicou nevedia udrzat a stale plati ze URALS kopiruje v cenach Zapadnu BRENT ropu. Teraz to vyzera ze dopyt po rope bude najblizsie mesiace stupat a s tym aj ruske ropne prijmy.gogo956 napísal: 28 júl 2023, 19:09 Rusko prohrálo energetickou válku o Evropu. Vítězem se stala hlavně Amerika - Peak.cz
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Z Ruska odteklo v přepočtu rekordních 5 bilionů korun od začátku invaze na Ukrajinu - ByznysDeník
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eMPiko
áno, pre Indiu a Cinu je to samozrejme tiez velmi vyhodne
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Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
To je senzacne. Rubel je uz len meme, vychadzaju clanky, ako Rusko ekonomicku vojnu prehralo a stale sa najdu ludia, ktori vidia ako sankcie nepomahaju, treba ich zrusit a Rusko vyhralo. Nebudem sa cudovat ak take stvorenia o chvilu budu vystupovat na RT, lebo takej demagogii neveria ani ich rezidentne postavicky.
Kto vie, ci ked Cierne more prestava byt bezpecne a egyptsky prezident dourzal tu karikaturu z moskovskeho hradu budu tu ropu posielat balonmi, alebo ako, ake siet agentov vo svete isto poradi.
A tu je clanok o ruskom jazyku na Ukrajine. Kto vie, ci aj na adresu autora sa prokremelske ucty vyjadria tak ako na moju a jeho obvinia z toho, ze je moj spolupachatel
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Kto vie, ci ked Cierne more prestava byt bezpecne a egyptsky prezident dourzal tu karikaturu z moskovskeho hradu budu tu ropu posielat balonmi, alebo ako, ake siet agentov vo svete isto poradi.
A tu je clanok o ruskom jazyku na Ukrajine. Kto vie, ci aj na adresu autora sa prokremelske ucty vyjadria tak ako na moju a jeho obvinia z toho, ze je moj spolupachatel
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Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Vyzera to naozaj tak, posledne dva-tri dni prebiehaju tuhe boje pri Robotine, co je presne na tejto osi. Ukrajinci robia nejake skromne pokroky, ale zatial ich straty na technike vyzeraju dost podobne ako zaciatkom juna. Zatial tam stale vidno zo zapadnej techniky najma Leopardy a Bradleys (BFV) + bolo vidno aj nejake MaxxPro. Zaujimave je, ako vela BFV vidime celu tuto ofenzivu. Ukrajinci dostali naozaj roznorode kusy AFV-ciek zo Zapadu, ale zrejme kvoli logistike do tejto ofenzivy skusaju zapojit menej druhov techniky, ale takej ktorej maju dost kusov (BFV myslim dostali do 200ks). A teda predpokladam ze aj v buducnosti planuju ze BFV bude hrat v ich ozbrojenych silach silnu ulohu, kedze Americania ich este maju naskladnene tisice.gogo956 napísal: 27 júl 2023, 10:29 Podla tychto poslednych sprav sa zda ze tak ako sa aj od zaciatku predpokladalo, hlavnym cielom bude mesto Melitopol resp najprv Tokmak.
Btw ruske opevnenia sa nachadzaju zakreslene aj tu https://deepstatemap.live/en#9/47.5673/36.2219 len treba aktitovat druhu option
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
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Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Logika nasa neopustaj nas:
ZSU dobyje cele kilometre, prekona "opevenenia" = skromne pokroky, desiatky tisic kusov techniky znicenych (aj ked ich nikto, okrem hracov Army nikdy nezaznamenal).
Rusi si vymyslia z brusu novu stotisicovu armadu, ktora ani za mesiac este nic nedobyla; vsade stracaju to najmodernejsie co im ostalo = velke uspechy.
Premyslam, kolko za to z toho Kremla platia. A ako je to platene - za post, riadok, znak?
Medzitym vo svete mimo Army a prigozinovych botov, ZSU chystaju oblucenie Urožanie, co je dedina hned na vychod od Staromajorske. A to je vo vektore, kde uz pred dvoma mesiacmi mali prist o uplne vsetku techniku a uplne vsetkych vojakov. Ako to tie ZSU robia?
ZSU dobyje cele kilometre, prekona "opevenenia" = skromne pokroky, desiatky tisic kusov techniky znicenych (aj ked ich nikto, okrem hracov Army nikdy nezaznamenal).
Rusi si vymyslia z brusu novu stotisicovu armadu, ktora ani za mesiac este nic nedobyla; vsade stracaju to najmodernejsie co im ostalo = velke uspechy.
Premyslam, kolko za to z toho Kremla platia. A ako je to platene - za post, riadok, znak?
Medzitym vo svete mimo Army a prigozinovych botov, ZSU chystaju oblucenie Urožanie, co je dedina hned na vychod od Staromajorske. A to je vo vektore, kde uz pred dvoma mesiacmi mali prist o uplne vsetku techniku a uplne vsetkych vojakov. Ako to tie ZSU robia?
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Tie straty Ukrajincov pri Robotine vyzeraju dost hrozivo zatial. Mam pocit ze Zapadne media toto trochu tutlaju, podobne ako ked zacala ofenziva v juni. N-ko napriklad vcera hovorilo o tom ze Ukrajinci stratili 3 BMP-cka, ale z dostupnych zaberov su zrejme o dost vacsie straty:
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eMPiko
to je prave to, ze bez vzdusnej nadvlady samotný pozemny utok v tak silno zaminovanom uzemi nema velky zmysel. Ak by mali F16 tak by vedeli rychlo po prvom vystrele ruske delostrelectvo eliminovat. Takto sa musia stiahnut /resp ak je ešte čo/ a ruske delostrelectvo zostava dalej funkcne a pripravene na dalsi protiutok AFU. Realita je pravdepodobne taká, že zanedlho sa AFU bude musiet zastavit, lebo straty budu prilis velke.
to je prave to, ze bez vzdusnej nadvlady samotný pozemny utok v tak silno zaminovanom uzemi nema velky zmysel. Ak by mali F16 tak by vedeli rychlo po prvom vystrele ruske delostrelectvo eliminovat. Takto sa musia stiahnut /resp ak je ešte čo/ a ruske delostrelectvo zostava dalej funkcne a pripravene na dalsi protiutok AFU. Realita je pravdepodobne taká, že zanedlho sa AFU bude musiet zastavit, lebo straty budu prilis velke.
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
vobec by som sa nedivil, keby to boli zrecyklované videá zo starých AFU strát, čo už aj bolo xkrát omieľané, že ruské kanály ich postupne vypúšťajú. Ako keď nedávno sa nejakí ruskí vojaci promenádovali pri vozidle ktoré "včera" zneškodnili a pritom už cez neho tráva prerastala.
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Musime dostavat tie ruske sracky? Oznacovat braniacu sa Ukrajinu ako nacistov? Rasisticke pomenovania Ukrajincov od niekoho kto plakal za slovo 'Moskaľ' a Zelensky vojnovy zlocinec? To ako vazne?! Potom mame verit ich haluciam?
Tak ako pri tej porazke pri Novosilke tyzden pred ofenzivou, stale tie iste videa, niektore mozno aj rok stare, len z inych uctov z Prigozinovej tovarne. Uz toho bota s tym odpadom poslite za ruskou lodou, prosim.
Zapadne media tutlaju. Skor nezdielaju blbosti, ktore sa nestali ako on.
gogo, preco by sa mali zstavit? pretoze dake fasisticke ucty plne lzi zdielaju dake postrihane bludy? skor sa ZSU zastavi pri Azovskom mori, ako pre stratu troch prestarnutych BVP
Tak ako pri tej porazke pri Novosilke tyzden pred ofenzivou, stale tie iste videa, niektore mozno aj rok stare, len z inych uctov z Prigozinovej tovarne. Uz toho bota s tym odpadom poslite za ruskou lodou, prosim.
Zapadne media tutlaju. Skor nezdielaju blbosti, ktore sa nestali ako on.
gogo, preco by sa mali zstavit? pretoze dake fasisticke ucty plne lzi zdielaju dake postrihane bludy? skor sa ZSU zastavi pri Azovskom mori, ako pre stratu troch prestarnutych BVP
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
empiko: normalne tieto posty neberiem moc vazne, ale tu suhlasim. tych videii je na nete fakt velmi vela, ten ucet tiez nemal povodne video, ale bol to len reupload a sharovat nieco s tymto textom po tom ako si sa isiel rozdrapit, ze niekto vola rusov moskali je trapne.jackb napísal: 29 júl 2023, 20:04Rasisticke pomenovania Ukrajincov od niekoho kto plakal za slovo 'Moskaľ' a Zelensky vojnovy zlocinec? To ako vazne?!
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Nepozerám kto zdieľa tie videá ani nijako nepodporujem tie textové popisy, ja to beriem čisto ako archívne materiály. Podobne to berú na Oryxe alebo na Geoconfirmed kde open source intelligence komunita analyzuje čo sa deje na fronte (a z kade ja tie videá mám). A je to fakt, že zábery z tejto ofenzívy zdieľajú najmä proruské účty, ktoré tam píšu svoje proruské bludy. Ale to nijako neznižuje hodnotu tých videí samotných pre pochopenie toho čo sa deje na fronte. Ak máte nejaké alternatívy bez tých bludov, pokojne to dajte a v poste to nahradím.
Re: Vojna na Ukrajine
Mírová jednání o Ukrajině proběhnou příští měsíc. Bez Ruska - Novinky
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