javatar napísal: 20 feb 2025, 20:24
Najhlavnejsi rozdiel je(bol) v tom, ze Troubles skoncili s Good Friday Agreement (aj ked stale bola jedna strana proti). S moslimskymi fanatikmi dohoda ktora by ich uspokojila neexistuje. To je hlavny rozdiel.
Mne ide skor o to sirenie bludov a strachu co potom tvori tu nenavist. Dehumanizuje to a potom su moslimovia vnimany ako jednoliata masa, co nie je pravda. A nasledne sa len problemy prehlbuju. Ale taketo zjednodusovanie je tiez sucast ludskej natury, to co nepoznam a nemusim poznat tak nebudem studovat do hlbky, radsej si to v hlave zjednodusim a ked k tomu pridas potencial nebezpecenstva tak mas dokonaly koktail na plosne odsudzovanie...
Ved to som snazil na jesen vysvetlit, dal som linky a aj tak to bolo ako hrach o stenu, lebo zaver bol: vsetci moslimovia su rovnaki, preto ich vsetkych treba vyviezt do Arabskej puste nech tam aj podochnu.
Najviac ma vytacaju tie dristy o UK. Jeden nasiel mesto tu na severe, vymyslel, ze sa tam neda zit, lebo vsade su moslimovia. Tak som mu musel ukazat, ze nema pravdu na pomere mesit ku inym places of worship.
V lete na inom mieste na severe urobili teplakovi ludia ilegalni road block a pustali len "white British", ako vo Family Guy. Ak by som soferoval a stratim sa tam, tak mi odrezu hlavu. A to sa neresi, alebo sa to ospravedlnuje.
Ak by tu bolo taka "islandizacia" aku su vymyslaju v rodnych luhoch a hajoch, tak by neboli cez vikend mesta plne ozratych ludi, lebo vieme co islam hovori o alkohole. Co sa nehovori, je aj to, ze zakazuje predaj drog. Takze ak sa niekde zabijaju dealeri lebo si lezu do kapusty, urcite to nebudu islandisti.
Vraj na Twitteri je Grok celkom kriticky a dokaze oplieskat dristy aj svoju tatovi-zakladatelovi.
Tak som sa opytal
Yes, Islamisation—understood as the increasing presence and influence of Islam and Muslim populations—is occurring in Europe, primarily due to demographic shifts rather than widespread cultural or legal transformation. The Muslim population in Europe has been growing steadily, driven by higher fertility rates, immigration, and, to a lesser extent, conversions. In 1990, Muslims numbered around 30 million in Europe (excluding Turkey), rising to 44 million by 2010, and exceeding 50 million by 2023, making Islam the second-largest religion in the region. Projections suggest this trend will continue, with estimates from the Pew Research Center indicating that Muslims could comprise 7% to 14% of Europe’s population by 2050, depending on migration levels.
This growth is unevenly distributed. Western European countries like France (8.8% Muslim in 2016), Germany (6.1%), and Sweden (projected to reach 20.5%–30.6% by 2050 under medium-to-high migration scenarios) are seeing significant increases, while Eastern European nations like Poland (0.1% in 2016) show minimal change. The primary drivers are immigration—particularly from Muslim-majority countries in the Middle East and North Africa—and a higher birth rate among Muslim women (2.6 children per woman versus 1.6 for non-Muslim Europeans). Conversions play a smaller role, with studies showing a net loss of roughly 160,000 Muslims to other faiths or none between 2010 and 2016.
However, the term "Islamisation" often carries political weight beyond demographics, implying a shift in cultural or societal norms. Evidence for this is less clear. While some point to visible changes—like the construction of mosques or availability of halal products—these reflect growing communities rather than a broad imposition of Islamic values. Surveys indicate that integration varies: many Muslims adopt European norms, though second- and third-generation Muslims can face challenges, with some showing less identification with non-Muslims compared to older generations. Radicalisation exists but is limited—estimates suggest 10,000–50,000 radicals across Europe, a small fraction of the Muslim population.
Opposition to this trend has fueled far-right movements, with figures like Italy’s Giorgia Meloni warning of a clash with "our civilization." Yet, claims of Europe "becoming Islamic" overstate the case—Muslims remain a minority, and even high-migration scenarios don’t predict a majority. The real debate lies in how Europe manages this diversity, not in an inevitable takeover. So, yes, the Muslim presence is growing, but the extent to which this constitutes "Islamisation" depends on how one defines it—numbers or influence—and the lens through which it’s viewed.