- nedomyslam si. aj ty spominas 90.-te roky a si mclaren fan tak na koho si sa pozeral ty v tych rokoch? takze schw33kovi nevykám.Tomasito napísal:krija, co ma toto spolocne s mojim prispevkom vyssie? Je naozaj zaujimave, ako si opakovane a napriek upozorneniu dokazes domyslat miesto toho, aby si vychadzal z toho co realne citas.
1. Odkedy schw33kovi vykas? Ja som totiz nikde suboje Mika vs. Schumak, ani suboje Senna vs. Prost vs. Mansell nespominal. A pokial si myslis, ze si tu jediny, kto mal moznost sledovat suboje tychto velikanov svojej doby, mylis sa- aj ked ja v porovnani s tebou sledujem F1 “len“ od sezony 93, nie kazdy mal v tomto konkretnom pripade to “stastie“ narodit sa skor. Uz 2x v tej istej teme som si vsimol, ako sa OT snazis putat pozornost na obdobie, pocas ktoreho mas udajne moznost sledovat F1...
2. O5 mi unika motiv tvojich slov. Kde namietam technologicky naskok Ferrari? Kde spochybnujem system financovania teamov, rovnaky asfalt pre vsetkych, 4 kolesa pre vsetky monoposty etc.? Krija, krija, jasne si sa ma pytal, co mi vadilo v poslednych 2 sezonach- napriek tomu, ze som hovoril o obdobi "poslednych rokov"... ja som ti s ohladom na tebou vytiahnute posl. 2 sezony jasne uviedol konkr. priklady- mnozstvo predbiehacich manevrov, stary format kvali. Pozri sa, o com tu v tejto suvislosti pises...
3. Ad. Ferrari mafia: Ten tvoj obrovsky a nepopieratelny technologicky naskok Ferrari ma z velkej casti povod prave za zelenym stolom Mosleyho FIA- tento technologicky naskok by vyzeral uplne inak, keby napr. koncom 90´s FIA nezakazala McL system tzv. inteligentnych brzd- napriek tomu, ze tento system pravidla nezakazovali- ci berilium- ktore pravidla taktiez nezakazovali (argumenty typu, ze berilium skodi vtacikom su este aj dnes smiesne). Zoberme si tiez napr. testovanie aerodynamickych noviniek, ktore malo moznost Ferrari ako jedine testovat este predtym, ako ich FIA odsudhlasila pre nove pravidla. To sa potom buduje obrovsky a nepopieratelny naskok... Podivuhodnych rozhodnuti FIA, z ktorych vytazilo najma Ferrari/Schumak bolo pritom viacero. Ked si k tomu pripomeniem nejeden vyrok ci uz Ecclestona, alebo Mosleyho, najma v obdobi dominancie McL na konci 90´s, z ktorych bolo zjavne, ze su viac nez nakloneni Ferrari v snahe zlomit tuto dominanciu McL, nenapada ma ine ako to, co na tribunach F1 bolo mozne zhliadnut uz mnoho krat- FERRARI MAFIA, ci RED RATS. A to uz nehovorim o mnozstve inych nesportovych chrapunstiev, ktore boli tak typicke pre Ferrari za Schumakovej ery (niektore z nich tu uz odzneli). Preto som rad, ze tento chrapun ako pilot v F1 skoncil a verim, ze uz coskoro za nim odidu aj curamedani ako Mosley a Ecclestone...
Bye SCUMi
- nevies ani pozorne precitat co písem. pisal som, kto a hlavne koho suboje chybaju mne!!!!!!!!!!!! (prispevok som needitoval)
- tej tvojej "mafii" trvalo viac ako 20 rokov kym ferrari o5 ziskalo titul. mimochodom MAX MOSLEY aj BERNIE ECCLESTONE su briti. a odkial je McL? 20 rokov sa nikto nestaral ako sa vôbec ferrari darí-proste to co tvrdíš je smiesne.
- technologický naskok nie je to co pises ty. taky príklad mozem uviesť aj ja. schumi bol majster sveta naposledy v roku 2004 s motorom V10. z dôvodu "šetrenia financii" sa prešlo na motory V8. a ferrari skoncilo. lebo ferrari s V10 motorom by kralovalo aj na zlých pneu od bridgestoneu + kopa dalsích obmedzení len aby ferrari so schumim uz nedominovalo.
- ale tu uznávam, nie je správne od FIA, ze mení pravidla v priebehu sezony.
- davate tu schumimu rôzne prívlastky-vulgárne. nikomu nevykám. vy co to robíte sa tu nájdete. hovori sa o nom, ze musi vyhrat za kazdu cenu. ale kto nechce?
Alain Prost rivalry with Ayrton Senna
Although Alain Prost is remembered as one of the most successful drivers in Formula One's history, he is also known for his battles with Ayrton Senna. The rivalry originated in 1988, when Senna joined Prost at McLaren. '88 only saw what was to come from the two drivers, most notably in Portugal, where Senna tried to block Prost from taking his position by forcing the Frenchman to run close to the pitwall. Prost kept his foot down and edged Senna outwards, taking the lead as they went into the first corner. Prost was not happy with Senna's manoeuver. The rivalry intensified after the 1989 San Marino Grand Prix, where Prost and Senna had an agreement that neither would get in each other's way to the first corner, at the start Senna got away cleanly and Prost followed him through the first corner without getting in Senna's way. It wasn't until the race was restarted after Gerhard Berger's fiery crash that caused the race to be red flagged. At the restart, it was Prost this time that got away cleanly but Senna forced his way past Prost in the first corner, breaking the pair's "truce" at the start of the race, the Frenchman was furious with Senna. The rivalry then reached its peak in 1989, when the title was decided by both Senna and Prost at Suzuka, the two McLarens collided at the chicane when Prost shut the door on a pass attempt by Senna. Prost walked away and Senna returned to the track by illegally cutting the chicane -- a maneuver that resulted in a disqualification after the checkered flag. Prost admitted years later that he had knowingly not let Senna through despite Senna having the inside line at the chicane.
1990, saw the two drivers came together yet again, as Prost, now in a Ferrari, had qualified second for the 1990 Japanese Grand Prix and Senna was on pole. Prior to the race Senna had complained that his line was dirty, therefore he couldn't get away faster than Prost, the Brazilian's appeal was rejected and he had to start from the dirty side of the track. At the start of the race, Prost got the better start of the two and while he was braking for the first corner, while Senna came charging on the inside line to take Prost out of the race and eliminating any possibility of the Frenchman taking the title off him. Senna admitted a year later that the move was premeditated, as payback for Prost taking the two out of the race at the chicane on the same course the previous year, and resultantly, Senna's lead in the World Championship meant he was crowned World Champion, much like Prost a year earlier.
After Prost came back for 1993, he and Senna continued where they left off, perhaps one of the biggest indications as to how much Prost is hated in Brazil is the fact that he was escorted by Police to the Interlagos circuit for the 1993 Brazilian Grand Prix. The two continued their on-track battles at Silverstone where Senna agressively defended his position against the Williams of Prost.
On May 1, 1994, Ayrton Senna, died at the San Marino Grand Prix. Prost attended the Brazilian's funeral. Speaking four years after the Brazilian's death, Prost told Nigel Roebuck that he had "always refused to speak about him." But when Senna died, Prost stated that "a part of himself had died also," because their careers had been so bound together.
Senna had also felt the same when Prost had retired at the end of 1993, when he admitted to a close friend that he had fully realised how much of his motivation had come from fighting with this one rival, Alain Prost. Only a couple of days before his death, filming an in-car lap of Imola for Elf, he told everyone with a spontaneous greeting: "I'd like to welcome back my friend Alain [Prost] - we all miss you...' Prost said that he was touched by that.
pre nas. pre nich to je biznis.
