gogo956 napísal: 17 dec 2024, 9:42
Jackb, skutocne si myslíš, že raketa ktora letela rychlostou cez 10 000km/h pri dopade neurobila ani "ťuk" ? To vážne?
Ze islo o hypersonicku raketu nerozporuju ani Ua zdroje a nerpzporuju ani to, ze je velmi velmi tazke takuto raketu eliminovat.
Ano, v mieste dopadu rakety bola podzemna tovarna, prave preto Rusko pouzilo taku drahu raketu na tento ciel.
/je snad jasne ze Ua nemoze verejne povedat co sa v danom mieste skutocne vyraba/
K tym fotkam:
1/tym ze raketa nebola vybavena vybusnou hlavicou, vyuzila iba kineticku energiu preto ani nevidno velke povrchove poškodenie na danom objekte. Cielom bolo preniknut do podzemnych priestorov co sa aj stalo.
2/medzi tymi dvoma foto je casovy rozdiel vyse mesiaca. Prečo Ua neporovnava fotografie ktore by boli stare maximlane par dní? Takto je to ako argument "ze sa nic nestalo" podozrive aj pre uplneho laika.. Nehovoriac o tom, ze nikto autenticitu tych zaberov neoveril.
Ano, skutocne myslim. Lebo kde ta raketa letela 10k km/h? Mimo atmosfery. Zostup ju brzdil. Takze ten zasah nikdy nebol pri rychlosti 10 000 km/h.
Ruske dristy a sracky na dristy a sracky. A ze prave od teba.
A este pridaj blbost o fotkach, rusofil na jar, ked hladal dopady Suchojov. Ked je velky prekryv oblakov, tak sa fotky nezverejnia, lebo su ako mrtvemu zlate zuby. Taka konspiracia. Alebo si myslis, ze ZSU, napriek utokom rakiet a dronov postavili tovaren opat, ako to pise KI? Nepride ti prave to ako najvacsia blbost celej tej zbierke?
Maxar si musis kupit. Low-res Sentinel mozes pozerat aj z telefonu na gauci a zadarmo. Aha:
24. novembra. Myslis, ze po tom, co 36 projektilov rozbilo budovy na povrchu, tak stihli postavit nove, aby zakryli, ze im nieco znicli?
Sentinel 2 - Južmaš
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambl ... in-thinks/
The claims is technically true, but only in a very narrow sense. The thing to remember here is that, in the famous words of another science fiction writer in a work featuring kinetic bombardment from space “There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch.”
With no explosive, the only energy in those warheads is what has been put in to accelerating them to high speed by the burning of rocket fuel. In the case of the Oreshnik, which is believed to be a direct derivative of the existing RS-26, the warhead of six independent re-entry vehicles weighs about 1,800 pounds and, according to Putin, impacts at a speed of Mach 10.
This translates to a kinetic energy of about 3.6 billion Joules, somewhat less than the explosive energy of one ton of TNT (4.4 billion Joules).
This low number is not surprising. The total weight of the RS-26 is less than forty tons, and much of this is taken up with the casing, rocket nozzles, guidance, warhead and other elements besides the fuel. A large fraction of the energy goes in accelerating the ‘parasitic’ weight, which is why stages are dropped as soon as they burn out, And while the rocket reaches Mach 20 in space, it loses half of its speed (and three quarters of its energy) from atmospheric drag on the way down. There is no free lunch and in fact most of the energy put into the rocket is wasted.
Hence, the kinetic-armed Oreshnik delivers as much energy as a 2,000-pound bomb. It is a big bang, but not in the same league as the U.S Air Force’s GBU-43 Massive Ordnance Air Blast aka ‘Mother Of All Bombs’ with a filling of H-6 explosive equivalent to 11 tons of TNT.
Takze ako "prd do Stromovky". Nielenze ziadnu tovaren neznicili, je takze si predstavit, ze ju vobec zasiahli.
Inak, ak by Oresnik skutocne letel "10 tisic km/h", asi tazko by z neho nasli trosky, ktore si potom novinari fotili.
Questionable Accuracy
The Oreshnik strike hit the Yuzhmash plant in Dnipro, a facility previously used for producing spacecraft and rockets. There were no reports of casualties, and low-resolution satellite imagery did not show craters, demolished buildings, or in fact any significant damage to the plant, which had been struck by previous Russian attacks.
Later, when high-resolution image became available, the effects still failed to emerge.
“The buildings are still standing. The strike may have done some additional damage to the buildings, but I don't see much," Dr. Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey and the founding publisher of Arms Control Wonk.com, told me.
The video of the strike indicates that each of the six warheads released six submunitions for a total of 36 artificial meteorites weighing about fifty pounds each. According to current best estimates, the RS-26 has a ‘Circular Error Probable’ or CEP of 90-250 meters , meaning that half the projectiles would lie inside a circle of that radius. This is accurate enough for a nuclear warhead with a blast radius of several kilometers, but not for a handful of kinetic warheads.
Takze, zas a opat. Len ruske propagandisticke dristy o zazracny zbraniach, ktore ale pouzivaju 70 rokov stary koncept a nic pod zemou neznicia ked nemaju vybusniny.
Kedze Južmaš vyrabal celu skalu sovietskych ICBM a bol vybrany aj pre produkciu Topol M, tak v Moskve vedia presne ako hlboko je. A, netradicne, musim suhlasit, ten zavod bol postaveny na to, aby vydrzal americke a britske nuklearne hlavice utociace ako ten "vykastrovany" Orešník.
Cize len narobili bububu, ohurili neználkov, ktori skocia na kazdy propagandisticky drist bez snahy si nieco overit.
Overovat, overovat, overovat. Ci su to senzacie o cudzincoch v Nemecku, o situacii v Syrii, ci "ruske zazracne zbrane"
