eMPiko napísal:Ladin existuje, bol znamy uz dlho pred 11/9, len na videach neni on

P3Bo napísal:Hehehe toto bol teda argument ......videli sme UFO ...hovorili o ňom už naši predkovia ...lenže jeho fotografie boli sfalšované .....v praxi teda neexistuje

eMPiko napísal:Prosim ta, vie sa o jeho verejnych vystupeniach, mal sa stretnut so Sadamom Husajnom, a ine. Myslis si ze Amici si ho preventivne zacali vymyslat uz 20 rokov dozadu, aby nanho mohli po 11/9 zvalit vinu?

//vyjadril som sa iba k tomu že mi ten tvoj príspevok ako taký prišiel smiešny pretože ma napadlo akurát to UFO

peterkozel napísal:vie mi niekto vysvetlit ze ako je mozne ze al-kajda zavahri ci vlastne ako sa vola + ladin sa v mnohych tych videach na aldzazire priznali ze naverbovali ludi co stoja za wtc a naplanovali do poslednej bodky, tak hmm preco ide stale o planovanu demolaciu...

P3Bo napísal:Myslím že bin ládin tak ako ho prezentuje USA v praxi neexistuje , teda niekde zakopaný v horách držiaci kalach v rukách a strieľajúci po amerických paratrooperoch. On sám je politická osobnosť ak teda je - ak žije .

//vyjadril som sa iba k tomu že mi ten tvoj príspevok ako taký prišiel smiešny pretože ma napadlo akurát to UFO

peterkozel napísal:nadhera chalani, presne toto som aj od vas cakal, cize nazor ze bin ladin ktory je totalny militantny moslim ktory nariadil dzihad hmm je podla vas dohodnuty s usa oni mu zaplatili a tie videa asa tocili niekde v usa...

peterkozel napísal:vie mi niekto vysvetlit ze ako je mozne ze al-kajda zavahri ci vlastne ako sa vola + ladin sa v mnohych tych videach na aldzazire priznali ze naverbovali ludi co stoja za wtc a naplanovali do poslednej bodky, tak hmm preco ide stale o planovanu demolaciu...

eMPiko napísal:Prosim ta, vie sa o jeho verejnych vystupeniach, mal sa stretnut so Sadamom Husajnom, a ine.

Aryan Angel napísal:Verejnych vystupeniach? Kde? V jaskyni? Mal sa stretnut so Saddamom? Odkial ty mozes vediet s kym sa mal stretnut

Aryan Angel napísal:Ten Moorov film som videl ale na toto sa nepametam. On to odkial vie?

Chcem povedat, vystupil tam nejaky iny ucastnik toho stretnutia ktory to potvrdil? Je o tom nejaky dokument alebo video/foto zaznam?

Tieto veci su dolezite, nie tvrdenie obezneho americana.

Michael Moore - Dude where is my country napísal:Whopper with Bacon: “Iraq has ties to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda!”

As if having the atomic bomb, nerve gas and the bubonic plague in
a bottle wasn’t enough, suddenly Saddam Hussein was in cahoots
with the Mother of All Terrorists himself, Osama bin Laden! I’m
sure you had the same reaction I did when you heard: “How much
worse can it get? When can we get rid of this Saddam guy?”
Just hours after the attacks on September 11, U.S. Secretary of
Defense Donald Rumsfeld had already figured out who was re-
sponsible, or at least, who he wanted to punish. According to CBS
News, Rumsfeld wanted as much information as possible about
the attacks, and told his fact-finding team to “go massive....
Sweep it all up. Things related and not.” He already had intelli-
gence indicating a connection to Osama (whom he called “Us-
ama”), but he wanted more because he had other goals in mind.
He wanted intelligence “good enough to hit S.H. [Saddam Hus-
sein] at the same time. Not only U.B.L.”

W.A.B.O.B.S!

I say Osama, you say Usama ... and Rumsfeld just says the
magic word “Saddam” and before you know it, everyone else was
saying it, too! Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark has said that he received
phone calls on September 11 and in the weeks after from people at
“think tanks” and from people within the White House telling him
to use his position as a pundit for CNN to “connect” September 11
to Saddam Hussein. He said he’d do it if someone could show him
the proof. No one could.

During the buildup to war in the fall of 2002, Bush and mem-
bers of his administration kept repeating the claim, keeping it un-
cluttered by specifics (also known as “facts”) so it stayed nice and
simple and easy to remember. Bush circled the country at cam-
paign stops for Republican congressional candidates, inseminating
the minds of the American people with the bogus Saddam/Osama
connection on a continuous loop. Check out just one week’s worth
of serial lying:

“This [Hussein] is a person who can’t stand America. This
is a person who has had contacts with al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Alamogordo, New Mexico, October 28, 2002

“He’s a threat to America and he’s a threat to our friends.
He’s even more of a threat now that we’ve learned that he’s
anxious to have, once again, to develop a nuclear weapon.
He’s got connections with al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Denver, Colorado, October 28, 2002

“This is a man who cannot stand what we stand for. He
hates the fact, like al Qaeda does, that we love freedom. See,
they can’t stand that. This is a guy who has had connections
with these shadowy terrorist networks.”
—George W. Bush, Aberdeen, South Dakota, October 31, 2002

“That’s the nature of this man. We know he’s got ties with
al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Portsmouth, New Hampshire,
November 1, 2002

“We know that he’s had connections with al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Tampa, Florida, November 2, 2002

“This is a man who has had contacts with al Qaeda. This
is a man who poses a serious threat in many forms, but catch
this form: He’s the kind of guy that would love nothing more
than to train terrorists and provide arms to terrorists so they
could attack his worst enemy and leave no fingerprints. This
guy is a threat to the world.”
—George W. Bush, St. Paul, Minnesota, November 3, 2002

“This is a man who can’t stand America and what we be-
lieve in. This is a man who hates some of our closest allies.
This is a man who has had al Qaeda connections.”
—George W. Bush, St. Louis, Missouri, November 4, 2002

“This is the kind of guy we’re dealing with. This is a man
who hates America, he hates our friends, he can’t stand what
we believe in. He’s had contacts with al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Bentonville, Arkansas, November 4, 2002

“This is a man who cannot stand America, he cannot
stand what we stand for, he can’t stand some of our closest
friends and allies. This is a man who has got connections
with al Qaeda.”
—George W. Bush, Dallas, Texas, November 4, 2002

Just in case we missed the point, Bush continued to hammer
it home in his State of the Union address on January 28, 2003:

“Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein
aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda,”
Bush insisted.

Immediately following the address, a CBS online poll found that
support for U.S. military action in Iraq increased.

A week later, on February 5, Bush’s claims were echoed by Sec-
retary of State Colin Powell in a lengthy address to the United Na-
tions Security Council. After detailing what Powell said were Iraq’s
numerous failures to comply with weapons inspections, he moved
on to the Saddam/Osama connection: “But what I want to bring to
your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus be-
tween Iraq and the al Qaeda network, a nexus that combines clas-
sic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder.”
But the meat of the administration’s “evidence” had already be-
gun to turn rancid. During that same first week of February, a
British intelligence report leaked to the BBC said there were no links
between Saddam and Osama. The two evildoers had tried to form a
friendship in the past, but it had turned out like a great episode of
Blind Date—they hated each other. According to the report, Bin
Laden’s “aims are in ideological conflict with present-day Iraq.”
On top of this, the al Qaeda poison and explosives factory Bush
and his team claimed Saddam was harboring was located in north-
ern Iraq—an area controlled by Kurds and patrolled by U.S. and
British warplanes since the early nineties. The north of Iraq was out
of Saddam’s reach, but within our own. The base actually belonged
to Ansar al Isalam, a militant fundamentalist group whose leader
has branded Saddam Hussein an “enemy.” A tour of the base by a
large group of international journalists quickly revealed that no
weapons were being manufactured there.
But none of that mattered. The president had said it—it had to
be true! Yes, this whopper worked so well that, in the months lead-
ing up to the war in Iraq, polls showed that up to half of Ameri-
cans said they believed that Saddam Hussein had ties to Osama
bin Laden’s network. Even before Bush had served up his 2003
State of the Union address, and Powell had presented the Saddam-
Osama “evidence” to the U.N., a Knight-Ridder poll found that
half of those questioned already incorrectly thought that one or
more of the 9/11 hijackers held Iraqi citizenship. Bush didn’t even
have to say it.

The Bush administration had succeeded in perpetrating one of
the biggest lies of all time, confusing Saddam with Osama in the
minds of the American public. Once you sell the people on the no-
tion that Saddam had a hand in the mass murder of nearly 3,000
people on American soil, well, even if the bogus weapons of mass
destruction whopper didn’t hold up, this would be enough to get
the flags waving and the troops a-packin’.
Of course the problem with this whopper—other than it is a
cynical, premeditated fabrication—is that Osama bin Laden con-
siders Saddam to be an infidel. Hussein committed the sin of cre-
ating a secular Iraq instead of a Muslim state run by fanatical
Muslim clerics. Under Saddam, Baghdad had churches, mosques
and, yes, even a synagogue. Hussein had persecuted and killed
thousands and thousands of Shiites in Iraq because of the threat
they posed to his secular government.
In fact, the biggest reason Saddam and Osama don’t like each
other is the same reason the Bushes stopped liking Saddam: the inva-
sion of Kuwait. Bush & Co. was pissed because Saddam was threat-
ening the security of our oil in the Gulf, and Osama was pissed
because it brought American troops to Saudi Arabia and the Muslim
holy lands. That’s bin Laden’s biggest problem with us—and it’s all
because of Saddam!
Saddam and Osama were mortal enemies and they could not
put their mutual hatred aside, even to join together to defeat the
USA. Man, to not team up when it meant destroying the Great
Satan Bush—THAT is a lot of hate!